Emirates
Re: Emirates
I'm half expecting NCL to go to an A350. Wonder if GLA will get the freed up 777 from that?
Re: Emirates
Here's the ET report on today's milestone:
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/242 ... w-airport/
Nothing much really, maybe reporters from The Herald or Scotsman might have asked about 2x daily, but I'm not holding my breath.
Using 2x77W would be the way to go up to double daily with the lowest jump in capacity and seats to fill, but then they wouldn't have the selling point if the A380. So instead they're looking at an A380 plus 77W, which is a lot of seats to fill. An A359 might be better, but the suggestion appears to be that they won't have F class.
As others have said, it does seem that GLA capacity has recovered markedly more slowly than other UK regionals. If we consider the flights they also had to EDI then they've gone from 1xA380 and 2x77W per day to/from Scotland to 1xA380, which is even more stark. I'm not sure I can see this as purely an aircraft/crew issue given they've clearly managed to find those for MAN and BHX.
I think the competition with QR is surely an issue, particularly given QR are double daily. I guess this might perhaps pull biz pax from EK given the more flexible schedule.
Other airports have shown the benifits of competition, so I think the quicker we can get TK (or others) in, the better.
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/242 ... w-airport/
Nothing much really, maybe reporters from The Herald or Scotsman might have asked about 2x daily, but I'm not holding my breath.
Using 2x77W would be the way to go up to double daily with the lowest jump in capacity and seats to fill, but then they wouldn't have the selling point if the A380. So instead they're looking at an A380 plus 77W, which is a lot of seats to fill. An A359 might be better, but the suggestion appears to be that they won't have F class.
As others have said, it does seem that GLA capacity has recovered markedly more slowly than other UK regionals. If we consider the flights they also had to EDI then they've gone from 1xA380 and 2x77W per day to/from Scotland to 1xA380, which is even more stark. I'm not sure I can see this as purely an aircraft/crew issue given they've clearly managed to find those for MAN and BHX.
I think the competition with QR is surely an issue, particularly given QR are double daily. I guess this might perhaps pull biz pax from EK given the more flexible schedule.
Other airports have shown the benifits of competition, so I think the quicker we can get TK (or others) in, the better.
Re: Emirates
QR A359s have 283 seats, so you'd guess EK A359s without F class would perhaps be around this figure.
In Jan EK NCL had 21644 pax which works out to around 349pax/flight - so it's likely a single daily A359 would provide insufficient capacity.
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Planeenthusiast
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Re: Emirates
In relation to the benefits or otherwise of direct competition, isn’t the risk for GLA that EK return to the airport where QR operates double daily, presumably on a A359 and competes directly with QR? This could mean EK sticking with a daily 388 from GLA.
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Who's to say that's not a possibility anyway? You could put all your eggs in the EK basket and try to "protect" them and then they go to EDI anyway. They had no competition at GLA pre covid - and I get the sense those in charge at GLA bent over backwards to please them - yet they still started EDI.Planeenthusiast wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:30 pm In relation to the benefits or otherwise of direct competition, isn’t the risk for GLA that EK return to the airport where QR operates double daily, presumably on a A359 and competes directly with QR? This could mean EK sticking with a daily 388 from GLA.
Looking at it the other way, QR would appear to have a decent load factor at EDI. They could obviously expand capacity by upgrading to 77Ws, but beyond that you're surely looking at extra frequencies. Do we want them to go 3xdaily at EDI but stay out of GLA in case EK get upset, or would we want those extra flights at GLA?
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GeorgeNTravels
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Re: Emirates
I have been reading some news articles published today about the 20th anniversary. A couple of quotes in this article that might be of interest.
“We could not have put an A380 into an airport like Glasgow without their support.” Richard Dewsbury, divisional vice president for the UK
"However, a second and bigger event for agents, a drinks reception and entertainment, is planned for May 16." i.e. there is more celebrations to come, you don't just throw money at these events for a laugh.
Average load factor on the route of 87% over the last 12 months.
Move than 50% of the bookings are from travel agents and trade.
"I would be very happy to see more capacity come to the UK and to Scotland.” Richard Dewsbury, divisional vice president for the UK
"“Glasgow remains a key market from both passenger and cargo perspectives and is a hugely popular destination for our passengers around the world."
Link to article: https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/emi ... om-glasgow
Also, worth remembering back to this time last year when Richard Dewsbury said he expected Premium Economy on the Glasgow route some point this year.
“We could not have put an A380 into an airport like Glasgow without their support.” Richard Dewsbury, divisional vice president for the UK
"However, a second and bigger event for agents, a drinks reception and entertainment, is planned for May 16." i.e. there is more celebrations to come, you don't just throw money at these events for a laugh.
Average load factor on the route of 87% over the last 12 months.
Move than 50% of the bookings are from travel agents and trade.
"I would be very happy to see more capacity come to the UK and to Scotland.” Richard Dewsbury, divisional vice president for the UK
"“Glasgow remains a key market from both passenger and cargo perspectives and is a hugely popular destination for our passengers around the world."
Link to article: https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/emi ... om-glasgow
Also, worth remembering back to this time last year when Richard Dewsbury said he expected Premium Economy on the Glasgow route some point this year.
Re: Emirates
Bollocks .. gla was double daily with a service at edi even with a A380 ... think that's you hoping that would be the casePlaneenthusiast wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:30 pm In relation to the benefits or otherwise of direct competition, isn’t the risk for GLA that EK return to the airport where QR operates double daily, presumably on a A359 and competes directly with QR? This could mean EK sticking with a daily 388 from GLA.
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Just getting blank pages when I click the links.