TBF, PIK also had an extensive long haul network. The market changes, sadly.
That was because there was an government embargo stopping flights ex gla and edi
Yup & as soon as this ridicules Imposed ruling was rescinded …. All PIK transatlantic traffic switched to GLA + many more joined the party… GLA has now lost that niche it had to EDI & it is now way, way out in front as this countries premier airport destination for both outbound & inbound traffic. Lots of reasons of course for this, but in my mind past & present (mis) management, personnel, skills, experience, policy etc, etc is at the forefront of blame/reason. Doubt there are many on this forum not on same thinking…
It’s easy for us to say but the reality is probably far removed from that.
To me it’s more because EDI has woken up over the last 20-30 years.
To be fair, if it was the only airport in central Scotland (or if GLA was) we’d have as many pax and flights as DUB or MAN. But the market is split between 3 airports.
It’s easy for us to say but the reality is probably far removed from that.
To me it’s more because EDI has woken up over the last 20-30 years.
To be fair, if it was the only airport in central Scotland (or if GLA was) we’d have as many pax and flights as DUB or MAN. But the market is split between 3 airports.
Ergo GLA hasn't in my opinion. I also think we all agree that there should really only be 2 pax airports in the central belt and not the third.
As we've all lamented before, one central Scottish hub would have been the best solution but it is what it is.
Globespan flew from LPL to EWR in 2006, I think. Needless to say it was a disaster and they lost shed loads of money. The route was complimented by a STN service too!
That was because there was an government embargo stopping flights ex gla and edi
Yup & as soon as this ridicules Imposed ruling was rescinded …. All PIK transatlantic traffic switched to GLA + many more joined the party… GLA has now lost that niche it had to EDI & it is now way, way out in front as this countries premier airport destination for both outbound & inbound traffic. Lots of reasons of course for this, but in my mind past & present (mis) management, personnel, skills, experience, policy etc, etc is at the forefront of blame/reason. Doubt there are many on this forum not on same thinking…
It’s easy for us to say but the reality is probably far removed from that.
To me it’s more because EDI has woken up over the last 20-30 years.
To be fair, if it was the only airport in central Scotland (or if GLA was) we’d have as many pax and flights as DUB or MAN. But the market is split between 3 airports.
Yes, EDI has woken up but the momentum increased significantly under new owners with significant airport interests (not least Gatwick) and a new but experienced CEO ex GLA via Bahrain
I'm afraid AGS just don't have the firepower financially and commercially especially post COVID-19 to halt the slide . . . its portfolio of ABZ, GLA & SOU have little in common to generate synergy deals and the deals that secured the easyJet and Ryanair bases and the various airline alliances at EDI are not going to be diluted
I forecast a couple of weeks ago 4.0m-4.8m passengers for next year . . . I'm now tending towards the bottom end of that range
Newcastle and Liverpool have been mentioned in this thread, both handled around 5m passengers in 2019 - GLA has a different mix of traffic but I think its overall passenger traffic will outturn in 2022 on at similar levels to these two airports
Are Lingus promoting Orlando and Barbados flights on Radio Clyde earlier, presumably aimed at potential and ex Virgin customers. The pre-clearance in Dublin is an attraction rather than the Orlando chaotic operation.
kenneth1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:07 pm
Are Lingus promoting Orlando and Barbados flights on Radio Clyde earlier, presumably aimed at potential and ex Virgin customers. The pre-clearance in Dublin is an attraction rather than the Orlando chaotic operation.
Is that not promoting their new "UK' services ex MAN though ?
Likely to be the case as the UK-US is still not on sale if it involves Emerald. TBH its getting late for this to be getting sorted out.
Can't help thinking that VS have made an almighty balls-up with this decision. Of course we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but I always thought they were quids-in with their GLA op's and looking to expand their frequencies? Something drastic happen with them and GLA?
bill wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:39 pm
Can't help thinking that VS have made an almighty balls-up with this decision. Of course we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but I always thought they were quids-in with their GLA op's and looking to expand their frequencies? Something drastic happen with them and GLA?
BGI is gone even for next winter from what I can see, MCO bookings look ok but many of them will be rebooked pax from GLA, they will regret the move I think
bill wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:39 pm
Can't help thinking that VS have made an almighty balls-up with this decision. Of course we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but I always thought they were quids-in with their GLA op's and looking to expand their frequencies? Something drastic happen with them and GLA?
BGI is gone even for next winter from what I can see, MCO bookings look ok but many of them will be rebooked pax from GLA, they will regret the move I think
Given that most airlines only show seats available in the GDS 330-355 days in advance, are you sure this route has gone for W22/23?
bill wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:39 pm
Can't help thinking that VS have made an almighty balls-up with this decision. Of course we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but I always thought they were quids-in with their GLA op's and looking to expand their frequencies? Something drastic happen with them and GLA?
BGI is gone even for next winter from what I can see, MCO bookings look ok but many of them will be rebooked pax from GLA, they will regret the move I think
Given that most airlines only show seats available in the GDS 330-355 days in advance, are you sure this route has gone for W22/23?
Looks like it is still going ahead for this season, someone else said on the forum they heard rumours it was gone for this season, but I just double checked and it looks like it is still bookable, my mistake, but the loads on it are nothing to write home about