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CAA Statistics July 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:31 pm
by Bearsden
2024 846,250
2023 764,104
+10.75%
International +/- 2,500 in the month
BUDAPEST 5,842
AMSTERDAM 5,018
LARNACA 4,572
TENERIFE SOUTH 4,345
ENFIDHA 4,273
PARIS CDG 4,074
HURGHADA 3,187
FARO 3,142
VERONA 3,075
PULA 2,918
DUBLIN 2,894
NAPLES 2,741
ANTALYA 2,695
TORONTO -3,093
WARSAW (MODLIN) -3,245
Re: CAA Statistics July 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:41 pm
by Planeenthusiast
It would be interesting to hear peoples thoughts on EK’s numbers compared to their main competitor - Qatar and on a smaller scale Turkish. Is their an underlying reason why growth appears to have flat lined and other places is seeing considerable growth?
EK - Dubai 31,119 compared to 30,976 in July 2023. Basically flat line % wise.
QR - Doha (EDI) 33,871 +10% on July 2023.
TK - Istanbul (EDI) 15,508 +42% on July 2023.
Although EK’s numbers have held up, the absence of a second daily is clearly not helping. No real growth at all compared to July last year. Turkish have grown quite considerably. It goes without saying that GLA would be very keen to attract/secure them.
Re: CAA Statistics July 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:30 pm
by Clive
Planeenthusiast wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:41 pm
It would be interesting to hear peoples thoughts on EK’s numbers compared to their main competitor - Qatar and on a smaller scale Turkish. Is their an underlying reason why growth appears to have flat lined and other places is seeing considerable growth?
EK - Dubai 31,119 compared to 30,976 in July 2023. Basically flat line % wise.
QR - Doha (EDI) 33,871 +10% on July 2023.
TK - Istanbul (EDI) 15,508 +42% on July 2023.
Although EK’s numbers have held up, the absence of a second daily is clearly not helping. No real growth at all compared to July last year. Turkish have grown quite considerably. It goes without saying that GLA would be very keen to attract/secure them.
The GLA service won’t grow until more capacity is added because the plane is to all intents and purposes full.
Re: CAA Statistics July 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:58 pm
by McG
Planeenthusiast wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:41 pm
It would be interesting to hear peoples thoughts on EK’s numbers compared to their main competitor - Qatar and on a smaller scale Turkish. Is their an underlying reason why growth appears to have flat lined and other places is seeing considerable growth?
EK - Dubai 31,119 compared to 30,976 in July 2023. Basically flat line % wise.
QR - Doha (EDI) 33,871 +10% on July 2023.
TK - Istanbul (EDI) 15,508 +42% on July 2023.
Although EK’s numbers have held up, the absence of a second daily is clearly not helping. No real growth at all compared to July last year. Turkish have grown quite considerably. It goes without saying that GLA would be very keen to attract/secure them.
Did QR operate the A359 or the B789 last summer?
Think Turkish might be combination of additional frequencies and going from B738 to A321Neo.
Re: CAA Statistics July 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:18 pm
by Planeenthusiast
Clive wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:30 pm
Planeenthusiast wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:41 pm
It would be interesting to hear peoples thoughts on EK’s numbers compared to their main competitor - Qatar and on a smaller scale Turkish. Is their an underlying reason why growth appears to have flat lined and other places is seeing considerable growth?
EK - Dubai 31,119 compared to 30,976 in July 2023. Basically flat line % wise.
QR - Doha (EDI) 33,871 +10% on July 2023.
TK - Istanbul (EDI) 15,508 +42% on July 2023.
Although EK’s numbers have held up, the absence of a second daily is clearly not helping. No real growth at all compared to July last year. Turkish have grown quite considerably. It goes without saying that GLA would be very keen to attract/secure them.
The GLA service won’t grow until more capacity is added because the plane is to all intents and purposes full.
Fair point. The July LF was approx 96%.
Re: CAA Statistics July 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:22 pm
by Planeenthusiast
McG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:58 pm
Planeenthusiast wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:41 pm
It would be interesting to hear peoples thoughts on EK’s numbers compared to their main competitor - Qatar and on a smaller scale Turkish. Is their an underlying reason why growth appears to have flat lined and other places is seeing considerable growth?
EK - Dubai 31,119 compared to 30,976 in July 2023. Basically flat line % wise.
QR - Doha (EDI) 33,871 +10% on July 2023.
TK - Istanbul (EDI) 15,508 +42% on July 2023.
Although EK’s numbers have held up, the absence of a second daily is clearly not helping. No real growth at all compared to July last year. Turkish have grown quite considerably. It goes without saying that GLA would be very keen to attract/secure them.
Did QR operate the A359 or the B789 last summer?
Think Turkish might be combination of additional frequencies and going from B738 to A321Neo.
QR operated 10 x weekly on a A359 in 2023. It now sits at 2 x daily 359.
TK operated daily on a 21N in 2023. It now sits at 10 x weekly on a 21N.
Re: CAA Statistics July 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:28 pm
by GeorgeNTravels
Planeenthusiast wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:22 pm
McG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:58 pm
Planeenthusiast wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:41 pm
It would be interesting to hear peoples thoughts on EK’s numbers compared to their main competitor - Qatar and on a smaller scale Turkish. Is their an underlying reason why growth appears to have flat lined and other places is seeing considerable growth?
EK - Dubai 31,119 compared to 30,976 in July 2023. Basically flat line % wise.
QR - Doha (EDI) 33,871 +10% on July 2023.
TK - Istanbul (EDI) 15,508 +42% on July 2023.
Although EK’s numbers have held up, the absence of a second daily is clearly not helping. No real growth at all compared to July last year. Turkish have grown quite considerably. It goes without saying that GLA would be very keen to attract/secure them.
Did QR operate the A359 or the B789 last summer?
Think Turkish might be combination of additional frequencies and going from B738 to A321Neo.
QR operated 10 x weekly on a A359 in 2023. It now sits at 2 x daily 359.
TK operated daily on a 21N in 2023. It now sits at 10 x weekly on a 21N.
The QR 10 weekly only operated in H1 of 2023, before rising to 14 weekly A359 from July 1st 2023
Re: CAA Statistics July 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:48 pm
by Bearsden
Planeenthusiast wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:41 pm
It would be interesting to hear peoples thoughts on EK’s numbers compared to their main competitor - Qatar and on a smaller scale Turkish. Is their an underlying reason why growth appears to have flat lined and other places is seeing considerable growth?
EK - Dubai 31,119 compared to 30,976 in July 2023. Basically flat line % wise.
QR - Doha (EDI) 33,871 +10% on July 2023.
TK - Istanbul (EDI) 15,508 +42% on July 2023.
Although EK’s numbers have held up, the absence of a second daily is clearly not helping. No real growth at all compared to July last year. Turkish have grown quite considerably. It goes without saying that GLA would be very keen to attract/secure them.
In the 'halcyon days' of July 2019
EDINBURGH ISTANBUL 8,954
EDINBURGH DUBAI 20,248
EDINBURGH DOHA NIL
GLASGOW DUBAI 46,216
Re: CAA Statistics July 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:31 pm
by bill
Sorry all, is this the CAA stats for GLA or EDI? I'm confused.
Re: CAA Statistics July 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:49 pm
by PiperOne
On a historic note, 20 years ago in July 2004, GLA had its first ever million passenger month, with a total of 1010032 and a 12-month rolling figure of 8.32m, and a 4% share of the UK market. So this year's 846250, 7.76m, and 2.7% is a long way short. 2004 was the first year of Dubai, Philadelphia, and Globespan.
Traffic split this year (2004)
International...532464 (575408)
Domestic........313786 (430976)
So a very noticeable decline of domestic, with International not quite so bad, but I would suggest still a lot of work to be done.