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Humberside
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Clive wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:22 pmIs BCN big as a hub airport? I think most UK links to there are by lo-co’s?
Vueling run BCN as a hub, albeit it's only really any use for regional Spain/Portugal/North Africa connections
atuk
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And although Level long haul is there there isn’t exactly a through connecting service either.
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atuk wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:18 pm And although Level long haul is there there isn’t exactly a through connecting service either.
Yes there is. You can book e.g. PMI-BCN-BOS on a single ticket and that ticket can be issued by Level or Vueling.
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jetblue497 wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:25 pm [quote=atuk post_id=14711 time=<a href="tel:1743200330">1743200330</a> user_id=75]
And although Level long haul is there there isn’t exactly a through connecting service either.
Yes there is. You can book e.g. PMI-BCN-BOS on a single ticket and that ticket can be issued by Level or Vueling.
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That’s good to know, I sums that means all Level long haul can be fed by Vueling and bags though checked?
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If I were to make a comparison, and feel free to correct me, I’d say Vueling’s Barcelona "hub" is similar to easyJet’s Gatwick "hub." It’s more about having a high volume of flights rather than a network designed for connections. While connections are possible, the schedule isn’t built around them, and connecting passengers are not the priority.

With this in mind, I think it was a fair comment to suggest removing BCN from the list of hubs.
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1. London Heathrow – British Airways hub
2. Istanbul – Turkish Airlines hub
3. Paris CDG – Air France hub
4. Amsterdam – KLM hub
5. Frankfurt – Lufthansa hub
6. Madrid – Iberia hub
7. Rome Fiumicino – ITA Airways hub
8. Munich – Lufthansa secondary hub
9. Lisbon – TAP Air Portugal hub
10. Vienna – Austrian Airlines hub
11. Dublin – Aer Lingus hub
12. Athens - Aegean Airlines hub
13. Vienna - Austrian Airlines hub
14. Zurich - Swiss hub
15. Copenhagen - SAS hub
16. Oslo - SAS hub
16. Brussels - Brussels Airlines hub
17. Stockholm - SAS hub
18. Warsaw - LOT hub
19. Helsinki - Finnair hub
20. Reykjavik - Icelandair hub

I find it interesting that we can sustain a daily flight, sometimes even with a large aircraft like a 767, to Reykjavik, one of the smallest hubs in Europe, yet there isn’t even a regional jet service to Paris, nor any flights to Istanbul, one of the world’s largest hubs.
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atuk wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 12:52 am
jetblue497 wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:25 pm [quote=atuk post_id=14711 time=<a href="tel:1743200330">1743200330</a> user_id=75]
And although Level long haul is there there isn’t exactly a through connecting service either.
Yes there is. You can book e.g. PMI-BCN-BOS on a single ticket and that ticket can be issued by Level or Vueling.
That’s good to know, I sums that means all Level long haul can be fed by Vueling and bags though checked?
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Correct - even if you have not paid for a bag on Vueling the Level allowance superecedes.
Gardner
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FlyGLA wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 10:05 am 1. London Heathrow – British Airways hub
2. Istanbul – Turkish Airlines hub
3. Paris CDG – Air France hub
4. Amsterdam – KLM hub
5. Frankfurt – Lufthansa hub
6. Madrid – Iberia hub
7. Rome Fiumicino – ITA Airways hub
8. Munich – Lufthansa secondary hub
9. Lisbon – TAP Air Portugal hub
10. Vienna – Austrian Airlines hub
11. Dublin – Aer Lingus hub
12. Athens - Aegean Airlines hub
13. Vienna - Austrian Airlines hub
14. Zurich - Swiss hub
15. Copenhagen - SAS hub
16. Oslo - SAS hub
16. Brussels - Brussels Airlines hub
17. Stockholm - SAS hub
18. Warsaw - LOT hub
19. Helsinki - Finnair hub
20. Reykjavik - Icelandair hub

I find it interesting that we can sustain a daily flight, sometimes even with a large aircraft like a 767, to Reykjavik, one of the smallest hubs in Europe, yet there isn’t even a regional jet service to Paris, nor any flights to Istanbul, one of the world’s largest hubs.
I love all things aviation related and enjoy reading about what is happening at GLA and other airports in the UK, however, I have have been observing this argument across many headings on this forum and I feel it is getting getting stuck in a rut. Is it not really positive that here in Central Scotland we are all around 60-90 minutes away from two airports that offer (mostly daily flights on legacy carriers) to all of the hubs on this list. We have never had such availability and such choice before and accessibility is key. It could be a bit more evenly spread, but like it or lump it, the market always decides and has control of us all...no matter the validity of the argument. Can a more more positive approach about GLA in the wider aviation world and not be trapped in parochial thinking. Aviation is exciting and this forum is in danger of becoming a tad depressing to be honest. Think positive, things will change...they always have done and always will, for better and for worse!
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Gardner wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 12:54 pm
FlyGLA wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 10:05 am 1. London Heathrow – British Airways hub
2. Istanbul – Turkish Airlines hub
3. Paris CDG – Air France hub
4. Amsterdam – KLM hub
5. Frankfurt – Lufthansa hub
6. Madrid – Iberia hub
7. Rome Fiumicino – ITA Airways hub
8. Munich – Lufthansa secondary hub
9. Lisbon – TAP Air Portugal hub
10. Vienna – Austrian Airlines hub
11. Dublin – Aer Lingus hub
12. Athens - Aegean Airlines hub
13. Vienna - Austrian Airlines hub
14. Zurich - Swiss hub
15. Copenhagen - SAS hub
16. Oslo - SAS hub
16. Brussels - Brussels Airlines hub
17. Stockholm - SAS hub
18. Warsaw - LOT hub
19. Helsinki - Finnair hub
20. Reykjavik - Icelandair hub

I find it interesting that we can sustain a daily flight, sometimes even with a large aircraft like a 767, to Reykjavik, one of the smallest hubs in Europe, yet there isn’t even a regional jet service to Paris, nor any flights to Istanbul, one of the world’s largest hubs.
I love all things aviation related and enjoy reading about what is happening at GLA and other airports in the UK, however, I have have been observing this argument across many headings on this forum and I feel it is getting getting stuck in a rut. Is it not really positive that here in Central Scotland we are all around 60-90 minutes away from two airports that offer (mostly daily flights on legacy carriers) to all of the hubs on this list. We have never had such availability and such choice before and accessibility is key. It could be a bit more evenly spread, but like it or lump it, the market always decides and has control of us all...no matter the validity of the argument. Can a more more positive approach about GLA in the wider aviation world and not be trapped in parochial thinking. Aviation is exciting and this forum is in danger of becoming a tad depressing to be honest. Think positive, things will change...they always have done and always will, for better and for worse!
Exactly. This is why I always say let’s look at GLA’s strengths and weaknesses and what it could have rather than what the main Scottish airport has. It’s over 20 years since GLA has been the less favoured airport of the two and we need to get over that and get on with thinking of GLA for GLA’s sake. That’s what the airport bosses have to do. They have to work within the market dynamics and not get hung up on a time that is light years away in terms of the changing air travel industry.

This isn’t an invitation for folks to point out again what they see as failings of successive managements. You are indeed correct that the market, which includes the airlines themselves, make demand and create supply.
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Gardner wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 12:54 pm
I love all things aviation related and enjoy reading about what is happening at GLA and other airports in the UK, however, I have have been observing this argument across many headings on this forum and I feel it is getting getting stuck in a rut. Is it not really positive that here in Central Scotland we are all around 60-90 minutes away from two airports that offer (mostly daily flights on legacy carriers) to all of the hubs on this list. We have never had such availability and such choice before and accessibility is key. It could be a bit more evenly spread, but like it or lump it, the market always decides and has control of us all...no matter the validity of the argument. Can a more more positive approach about GLA in the wider aviation world and not be trapped in parochial thinking. Aviation is exciting and this forum is in danger of becoming a tad depressing to be honest. Think positive, things will change...they always have done and always will, for better and for worse!
Hi Gardner, good post by the way, but can I ask, what's positive about by-passing an 'international' airport that's around 4 miles from where I live to travel 30 miles to another airport just to catch a flight to Milan, Venice, Copenhagen, Stansted (at a decent time of day) and dozens of other examples? I fail to see anything positive in this at all. I just feel like most on here want the imbalance addressed, that's all. We know we'll never have the schedules, destinations, and airlines Edinburgh has. So, Scottish aviation life is really positive if you live in Edinburgh, Fife or The Lothians though, I agree. :|
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