Loganair reopen MME base

[atuk]

Oh my what short memories we have. I remember the brief flirtation with the 146, even on weekend ski /sun charters it was hard to be profitable and certainly proved unprofitable on the schedules.

Fast forward to the latter days of BD on GLA-LHR: latterly it was worked by E145s sky high fares and low load factors. The 319/320s proved too big as they couldn’t sell the seats at realistic rates and when they finally pulled the route there was only 30% transfer passengers for Star Alliance partners.

So it’s hardly surprising that Eurowings and Loganair could make DUS work. The 135/145 could make money in ABZ thanks to oil company block bookings although that, now, must be in doubt.

I don’t envy anyone in airline ops or crewing and forward planning must literally be “ up in the air”.

Until politicians meet with airport and airline operators and management then give practical help instead of mealy mouthed words the situation will only deteriorate even further.

[Clive]

It's quite amusing really. The airline which has stuck by Glasgow and is flying a higher proportion of its schedule than anyone else, planning next summer to resume routes suspended like EXT, NQY and has started a "new" route - BHD - despite all that's going on, and it's bashing mode.

What, really, do you expect? If you think Loganair would forego the opportunity presented to it at MME and instead base a 145 at GLA to fly CPH, BRU, DUS then I'm afraid this genuinely is cloud cuckoo land. There's no way that the numbers would stack up on that right now, and you must have seen the huge reduction in international flying from all locations - NCL-BRU gone, EDI-HAJ not started and more.

I think folks meant post-Covid. Now’s probably not the time for anything except Lifeline services.

[Clive]

Why would Loganair decide to start GLA-CPH or GLA-BRU instead of seeking new opportunities from other UK airports, exactly? CPH is largely leisure traffic and is served by easyJet, Ryanair and Norwegian from EDI at high frequency with highly competitive fares. Could Loganair realistically operate a similarly high frequency and offer competitive fares? I think not.

BRU has a higher proportion of business traffic but SN are offering EDI twice daily with connections to much of Europe and Africa on top of Ryanair's multiple-weekly route to CRL.

Loganair do well at connecting GLA with the Highlands and Islands and increasingly the rest of the UK so why would they waste their time flying routes that they cannot compete on?

Perhaps it depends on whether or not you think EDI is a Glasgow airport. It wouldn’t come into my travel plans.

But by your logic it’s a wonder GLA has any flights at all.

[dgr727]

Well said Clive. Its almost as if most airlines have given up on GLA and will concentrate all future operations at EDI. Sad times for this of us who have been around since day 1 at GLA.

[Clive]

It doesn't matter whether I think it's a Glasgow airport or not, it's what the majority of the travelling public think. If someone uses Skyscanner/Kayak/Expedia to search for Glasgow to Copenhagen for a weekend break next August there will be plenty of non-stop options at various times and fares but none will actually be from GLA. I wish that wasn't the case but it is. Frankly all this 'driving along the M8 to save a tenner' is tosh. It's driving along the M8 because there are a plethora of routes available that GLA can't offer, it's that simple. Loganair aren't going to fix that.

No they’re not. That’s for sure.

[Ekally1]

No - and after the Dusseldorf experiment, I do not think they are going to try. Apart from the flying into Norway and Denmark where competition is less and average fares are higher, I cannot see any routes into continental Europe featuring in the route network any time soon.

So whats the chance of a denmark or norway from GLA ?

[egpffqtv]

No - and after the Dusseldorf experiment, I do not think they are going to try. Apart from the flying into Norway and Denmark where competition is less and average fares are higher, I cannot see any routes into continental Europe featuring in the route network any time soon.

So whats the chance of a denmark or norway from GLA ?

Zilch.

[Paris]

No - and after the Dusseldorf experiment, I do not think they are going to try. Apart from the flying into Norway and Denmark where competition is less and average fares are higher, I cannot see any routes into continental Europe featuring in the route network any time soon.

whats the chance of a denmark or norway from GLA ?

Saabdriver writes: “ I cannot see any routes into continental Europe featuring in the route network any time soon.” ... Then question put: “whats the chance of a denmark or norway from GLA ?”

Baffled.com

[Ekally1]

No - and after the Dusseldorf experiment, I do not think they are going to try. Apart from the flying into Norway and Denmark where competition is less and average fares are higher, I cannot see any routes into continental Europe featuring in the route network any time soon.

whats the chance of a denmark or norway from GLA ?

Saabdriver writes: “ I cannot see any routes into continental Europe featuring in the route network any time soon.” ... Then question put: “whats the chance of a denmark or norway from GLA ?”

Baffled.com

Where he also says apart from perhaps denmark and norway ... however i see you have edited that out to suit your agenda ... dont be that person who trolls like a online bully so give it a rest

[Gla1]

Not quite MME related but Loganair now announcing an expanded Isle of Man base which will eventually be 3x Atr 72 a/c.

Man up to 4x daily
Liv up to 3x daily
Heathrow up to 2x daily
Birmingham 1x daily
Belfast city 6x weekly
Edinburgh up to 4x weekly
Southampton up to 3x weekly
Jersey up to 1x weekly.

Courtesy of Seanm1997 on twitter.