PIK

[hads]

Its almost as if there are no Financial downsides at PIK for ryanair.
Anywhere else and the Goblin would have it boarded up.
Ive made my feelings well known. No point in banging on about it.

[Bearsden]

Utterly political to keep the terminal open . . . and Ryanair know it!

If it is costing Ryanair £0 to operate passenger flights from PIK from a very small base with locally based crew then no need to consider giving up or moving elsewhere - it also gives an opportunity to rotate aircraft through for maintenance

I suspect it is easy for PIK to recruit and retain local part-time staff for the few days a week in the winter with the carrot, if they want it, of more hours in the summer (no different from EDI or GLA but just on a micro scale)

[Clive]

Utterly political to keep the terminal open . . . and Ryanair know it!

If it is costing Ryanair £0 to operate passenger flights from PIK from a very small base with locally based crew then no need to consider giving up or moving elsewhere - it also gives an opportunity to rotate aircraft through for maintenance

I suspect it is easy for PIK to recruit and retain local part-time staff for the few days a week in the winter with the carrot, if they want it, of more hours in the summer (no different from EDI or GLA but just on a micro scale)

The airport management run the airport, not the government. The management are charged with improving the financial performance and paving way for a sale to the private sector. It’s not clear how, if the government had any influence on such matters, whether keeping the terminal open is a vote winner or vote loser, given the hostility towards it from the admittedly small sample of observers in here. The Thatcherites amongst us would have seen the whole airfield close and become a housing estate but if they are honest that would not have been in Scotland’s best interests. It’s a valuable asset to Scotland and will be even more so in the new future that is on the horizon.

[hads]

Utterly political to keep the terminal open . . . and Ryanair know it!

If it is costing Ryanair £0 to operate passenger flights from PIK from a very small base with locally based crew then no need to consider giving up or moving elsewhere - it also gives an opportunity to rotate aircraft through for maintenance

I suspect it is easy for PIK to recruit and retain local part-time staff for the few days a week in the winter with the carrot, if they want it, of more hours in the summer (no different from EDI or GLA but just on a micro scale)

The airport management run the airport, not the government. The management are charged with improving the financial performance and paving way for a sale to the private sector. It’s not clear how, if the government had any influence on such matters, whether keeping the terminal open is a vote winner or vote loser, given the hostility towards it from the admittedly small sample of observers in here. The Thatcherites amongst us would have seen the whole airfield close and become a housing estate but if they are honest that would not have been in Scotland’s best interests. It’s a valuable asset to Scotland and will be even more so in the new future that is on the horizon.

Poltics are banned, as you have previously decreed so cut that nonsense out.
If this was anywhere else, "Thatcherites" would have ben completely justified in bulldozing it
Its a completely indefensible state of affairs.
Anywhere else on the planet, we would not be having this ongoing debate

[Clive]

Utterly political to keep the terminal open . . . and Ryanair know it!

If it is costing Ryanair £0 to operate passenger flights from PIK from a very small base with locally based crew then no need to consider giving up or moving elsewhere - it also gives an opportunity to rotate aircraft through for maintenance

I suspect it is easy for PIK to recruit and retain local part-time staff for the few days a week in the winter with the carrot, if they want it, of more hours in the summer (no different from EDI or GLA but just on a micro scale)

The airport management run the airport, not the government. The management are charged with improving the financial performance and paving way for a sale to the private sector. It’s not clear how, if the government had any influence on such matters, whether keeping the terminal open is a vote winner or vote loser, given the hostility towards it from the admittedly small sample of observers in here. The Thatcherites amongst us would have seen the whole airfield close and become a housing estate but if they are honest that would not have been in Scotland’s best interests. It’s a valuable asset to Scotland and will be even more so in the new future that is on the horizon.

Poltics are banned, as you have previously decreed so cut that nonsense out.
If this was anywhere else, "Thatcherites" would have ben completely justified in bulldozing it
Its a completely indefensible state of affairs.
Anywhere else on the planet, we would not be having this ongoing debate

See what I mean….

[hads]

Oi. Im not being political in the slightest.
You state No Politics. Im talking about Economics. Money. Funding.
I know whos doing it and why they do it. I make no comment.
Other than. No matter who agreed it, its insanity. Bonkers. Indefensible.Raving mad. Counter productive. Inefficient.
Tory, Nat, Labour, Lib Dem, Commy, UKIP, Raving Monster Loony Party. Dont give a shit. Its outrageous.

[Bearsden]

Utterly political to keep the terminal open . . . and Ryanair know it!

If it is costing Ryanair £0 to operate passenger flights from PIK from a very small base with locally based crew then no need to consider giving up or moving elsewhere - it also gives an opportunity to rotate aircraft through for maintenance

I suspect it is easy for PIK to recruit and retain local part-time staff for the few days a week in the winter with the carrot, if they want it, of more hours in the summer (no different from EDI or GLA but just on a micro scale)

The airport management run the airport, not the government.

I agree re day-to-day operations but closing down pax ops is almost certainly a 'red line' from the owner ie Scottish Ministers (Government) which management cannot cross

[Clive]

Utterly political to keep the terminal open . . . and Ryanair know it!

If it is costing Ryanair £0 to operate passenger flights from PIK from a very small base with locally based crew then no need to consider giving up or moving elsewhere - it also gives an opportunity to rotate aircraft through for maintenance

I suspect it is easy for PIK to recruit and retain local part-time staff for the few days a week in the winter with the carrot, if they want it, of more hours in the summer (no different from EDI or GLA but just on a micro scale)

The airport management run the airport, not the government.

I agree re day-to-day operations but closing down pax ops is almost certainly a 'red line' from the owner ie Scottish Ministers (Government) which management cannot cross

I wonder if you or anyone else with a professional sort of air could make an FOI request to ascertain this. If it is true then myself and the likes of GLA bosses would rightly pressurise the current Scottish Government to remove this stipulation. Also if it’s not true we could just stop saying it.

[atuk]

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again.

When PIK was a protected BAA “asset” it prevented any trans Atlantic operations being flown from any other Scottish airport! So, you could fly from EXT or LBA; BHX or NCL to Canada with Worldways but not from GLA or EDI. PIK limped along with wide bodied services; far in excess of any justifiable frequency on 747s and TriStars! The right aircraft of the day was the 767-200.

Thankfully common sense prevailed when GLA Air 2000 took them to task regards operations to MCO which required to stop at PIK. Cecil,Parkinson was the then transport minister who overturned this stupid, anachronistic ruling much to the chagrin of Messrs Foulkes and Younger.

To keep the status quo of pax ops at PIK is in effect a back door subsidy against similar routes flown from EDI and GLA with their own based airlines.

I personally can’t think of any other airport in any other European country which would operate in this manner!

[Clive]

To keep the status quo of pax ops at PIK is in effect a back door subsidy against similar routes flown from EDI and GLA with their own based airlines.

I personally can’t think of any other airport in any other European country which would operate in this manner!

This was exactly the same when PIK was privately owned and going down the pan.

And the time you described before Open Skies, pre-1990, was before devolution and before BAA was privatised. The owners then being the British Government in the same way as the business is owned by the sitting Scottish Government of the day of whatever colour gets elected each parliamentary term.

Ignorant people think it’s owned by the SNP. It’s not. It’s owned by the people of Scotland through the transport department of the governments they elect. Same with HIAL.