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atuk
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Re: Edinburgh

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Davieboy wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:38 am Ryanair relaunch EDI-STN from 30 October: initially 11 weekly, then 14 weekly from 1 December: https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/15 ... 5721329664
That’s one way of helping keep one or more of these 10 based aircraft this winter. Presumably the portent for twelve based next summer. Oh the joys of 8888 and 8824 on a Friday evening!
hads
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Re: Edinburgh

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Clive wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:16 pm
Davieboy wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:37 am
Clive wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:03 pm But if anyone here thinks there isn’t a market worth serving from GLA they are probably in the wrong place.
Iain wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:50 am Yes, absolutely. You only need to look at the amount of passengers to the USA and amount of American tourists visiting Glasgow pre-COVOD to see the market. With airlines seemingly loading up routes and frequencies at Edinburgh it should be a clear market opportunity for other airlines to come to GLA to serve that market.

The problem it seems is that the people in charge at GLA don't appear to be particularly effective at selling these opportunities.
I've no doubt that there is a market for people from North America who want to travel to Glasgow. But it's a small part of a much larger market of people from North America who want to travel to and then around Scotland. Included in that much larger market are people from North America who want to travel to Edinburgh (a market in itself larger than the market for people from North America who want to travel solely to Glasgow). If US airlines can efficiently serve those larger Scotland and Edinburgh markets by providing wide-body services to Edinburgh, what incentive do they have to serve the smaller Glasgow market directly, especially as ground transportation between Glasgow and Edinburgh airport is straightforward (and the distance is fairly short by North American standards)?
Indeed.
Some people insist the airports are substitutional for each other so presumably an airline could serve the same Scottish market from GLA but why would they? Unfortunately GLA bosses are in a far more difficult position than their counterparts at EDI.
indeed they are. Take no pleasure in that tbh. GLA has lost critical mass. So its pretty much a reactionary environment rather than a strategic one.
Events happen and GLA just need to deal with it. Edinburgh can think strategically different.
We once had the highly informed people on here stating the total number of Central belt passengers.Remember? Something like 25 million available bottoms on seats.
What is it like today?
GeorgeNTravels
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Re: Edinburgh

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hads wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:32 am
We once had the highly informed people on here stating the total number of Central belt passengers.Remember? Something like 25 million available bottoms on seats.
What is it like today?
For the summer season this year seats available, as of March 17th 2022

EDI - 10,344,992 (63.24% of the market)
GLA - 5,966,728 (36.47% of the market)
PIK - ~446,976 (2.7% of the market)

Total seats filled so far, (last figures included are August 2022)

EDI - 5,640,796 (54.53% of seats)
GLA - 3,311,756 (55.50% of seats)
PIK - 265,944 (59.50% of seats)

I should point out that some routes that have been cut from GLA may affect the maths those being,

Transavia ORY
Corendon DLM
WestJet YHZ (early finish)

As these routes were cut, the impact of additional EJU seats to CDG, AMS, PMI, FAO & AGP will be smaller.

EDI has also had some changes to its scheduled seats, most notable is UA with ORD, equipment changes and a delayed start will impact the number of people able to travel. Air Baltic and Flyr have removed seats mid season as well impacting seats available figure.

AFAIK no changes have occurred at PIK this year impacting its schedule
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hads
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Re: Edinburgh

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GeorgeNTravels wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:06 pm
hads wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:32 am
We once had the highly informed people on here stating the total number of Central belt passengers.Remember? Something like 25 million available bottoms on seats.
What is it like today?
For the summer season this year seats available, as of March 17th 2022

EDI - 10,344,992 (63.24% of the market)
GLA - 5,966,728 (36.47% of the market)
PIK - ~446,976 (2.7% of the market)

I'll add the total filled seats so far shortly
I did say Highly informed. And there you go. Impressive.
GeorgeNTravels
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Re: Edinburgh

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atuk wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:07 am
Davieboy wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:38 am Ryanair relaunch EDI-STN from 30 October: initially 11 weekly, then 14 weekly from 1 December: https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/15 ... 5721329664
That’s one way of helping keep one or more of these 10 based aircraft this winter. Presumably the portent for twelve based next summer. Oh the joys of 8888 and 8824 on a Friday evening!
Looking at the S22 slot report it will be a STN aircraft, and that STN-ABZ and STN-LDY were both slotted to start this summer. I expect them to be announced as the missing routes indicated in the last press release.
Ekally1
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Re: Edinburgh

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Shame no gla since stn based unit
egpffqtv
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Re: Edinburgh

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EASYJET ANNOUNCES PLANS TO BASE ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT IN SCOTLAND AND PUTS FLIGHTS ON SALE FOR SUMMER 2023

https://mediacentre.easyjet.com/story/1 ... ummer-2023

OCTOBER / 06 2022
easyJet will base an additional aircraft at Edinburgh and will now have nine aircraft serving more customers from its largest Scottish base from next summer
easyJet is the largest airline in Scotland and operates 71 routes to 48 destinations across Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.
The airline has also put its summer 2023 schedule on sale today Scotland up to 30 September 2023
Seats are available to book at easyJet.com and via the mobile app from £29.99*
easyJet, Scotland’s largest airline, has today announced that it will introduce an additional aircraft to its Edinburgh base from next summer to serve customer demand from the Scottish capital meaning that from summer 2023 easyJet will base a total of nine aircraft at Edinburgh, operating on 39 routes across the UK, Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.

The ninth aircraft will be based in Edinburgh throughout the year, providing more seats next summer for customers travelling to and from the city. The aircraft will join two 156-seat Airbus A319 and six 186-seat A320 aircraft already serving the airline’s customers in Edinburgh.

easyJet has also put its summer 2023 schedule on sale today meaning seats on over a quarter of a million flights between 9 May 2023 and 30 September 2023 are now available to snap up early across the entire easyJet network, including over 14,000 flights to and from Scotland.

With flights to over 45 destinations to choose from across Europe, North Africa and the Middle East from four Scottish airports – Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Inverness – customers have an unrivalled choice when looking to book their summer getaway, whether that’s exploring hidden gems, relaxing on Europe’s most beautiful beaches or enjoying a lively city break.

Ali Gayward, easyJet's UK Country Manager, commented:

“Nearly three decades ago we launched the airline with services from London Luton to Edinburgh and Glasgow. Twenty-seven years on, Scotland remains an important focus for easyJet and we continue to see opportunity in Scotland, which is why we are delighted to be adding an additional aircraft to our Edinburgh airport base to serve even more customers in Scotland next summer.

“We are also delighted to be putting our flights for summer 2023 on sale today, so customers can book early to snap up the best fares across our network and find a great-value summer getaway in the most fantastic beach and city destinations Europe has to offer.

“With seats now available across thousands of flights serving four Scottish airports on over 70 routes to Europe, North Africa and the Middle East, now is a great time to book for next summer with easyJet.”

Kate Sherry, Aviation Director at Edinburgh Airport said:

“The continued expansion of easyJet at Edinburgh Airport shows the strength that the Edinburgh market has, as well as the confidence that one of our closest airline partners has in Scotland’s busiest airport. The industry’s recovery is still ongoing and this additional based aircraft will sustain the positive trajectory that we have seen at Edinburgh.

“The launch of the summer programme comes at a great time as we move into the winter and we begin to think about that summer holiday and dream about the sunshine and the beach, something this programme delivers in buckets and spades! Whether it’s discovering a new city or returning to a favourite spot, the variety of destinations provides passengers with plenty of choice and something to really look forward to next year.”

Flights for next summer are now available to book at easyJet.com and via the mobile app, including:

Glasgow to Berlin and Paris from £29.99*
Glasgow to Malaga and Alicante from £34.99*
Edinburgh to Munich and Keflavik from £31.99*
Edinburgh to Lisbon and Naples from £34.99*
easyJet is the largest airline in Scotland and serves four Scottish airports, offering 71 routes to 48 destinations across Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. To discover more about easyJet’s network and to book, visit easyJet.com.



For further information, please contact the easyJet Press Office on 01582 525252, log onto www.easyJet.com or follow @easyJet_Press
GeorgeNTravels
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Re: Edinburgh

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egpffqtv wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:17 am EASYJET ANNOUNCES PLANS TO BASE ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT IN SCOTLAND AND PUTS FLIGHTS ON SALE FOR SUMMER 2023

https://mediacentre.easyjet.com/story/1 ... ummer-2023

OCTOBER / 06 2022
easyJet will base an additional aircraft at Edinburgh and will now have nine aircraft serving more customers from its largest Scottish base from next summer
easyJet is the largest airline in Scotland and operates 71 routes to 48 destinations across Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.
The airline has also put its summer 2023 schedule on sale today Scotland up to 30 September 2023
Seats are available to book at easyJet.com and via the mobile app from £29.99*
easyJet, Scotland’s largest airline, has today announced that it will introduce an additional aircraft to its Edinburgh base from next summer to serve customer demand from the Scottish capital meaning that from summer 2023 easyJet will base a total of nine aircraft at Edinburgh, operating on 39 routes across the UK, Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.

The ninth aircraft will be based in Edinburgh throughout the year, providing more seats next summer for customers travelling to and from the city. The aircraft will join two 156-seat Airbus A319 and six 186-seat A320 aircraft already serving the airline’s customers in Edinburgh.

easyJet has also put its summer 2023 schedule on sale today meaning seats on over a quarter of a million flights between 9 May 2023 and 30 September 2023 are now available to snap up early across the entire easyJet network, including over 14,000 flights to and from Scotland.

With flights to over 45 destinations to choose from across Europe, North Africa and the Middle East from four Scottish airports – Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Inverness – customers have an unrivalled choice when looking to book their summer getaway, whether that’s exploring hidden gems, relaxing on Europe’s most beautiful beaches or enjoying a lively city break.

Ali Gayward, easyJet's UK Country Manager, commented:

“Nearly three decades ago we launched the airline with services from London Luton to Edinburgh and Glasgow. Twenty-seven years on, Scotland remains an important focus for easyJet and we continue to see opportunity in Scotland, which is why we are delighted to be adding an additional aircraft to our Edinburgh airport base to serve even more customers in Scotland next summer.

“We are also delighted to be putting our flights for summer 2023 on sale today, so customers can book early to snap up the best fares across our network and find a great-value summer getaway in the most fantastic beach and city destinations Europe has to offer.

“With seats now available across thousands of flights serving four Scottish airports on over 70 routes to Europe, North Africa and the Middle East, now is a great time to book for next summer with easyJet.”

Kate Sherry, Aviation Director at Edinburgh Airport said:

“The continued expansion of easyJet at Edinburgh Airport shows the strength that the Edinburgh market has, as well as the confidence that one of our closest airline partners has in Scotland’s busiest airport. The industry’s recovery is still ongoing and this additional based aircraft will sustain the positive trajectory that we have seen at Edinburgh.

“The launch of the summer programme comes at a great time as we move into the winter and we begin to think about that summer holiday and dream about the sunshine and the beach, something this programme delivers in buckets and spades! Whether it’s discovering a new city or returning to a favourite spot, the variety of destinations provides passengers with plenty of choice and something to really look forward to next year.”

Flights for next summer are now available to book at easyJet.com and via the mobile app, including:

Glasgow to Berlin and Paris from £29.99*
Glasgow to Malaga and Alicante from £34.99*
Edinburgh to Munich and Keflavik from £31.99*
Edinburgh to Lisbon and Naples from £34.99*
easyJet is the largest airline in Scotland and serves four Scottish airports, offering 71 routes to 48 destinations across Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. To discover more about easyJet’s network and to book, visit easyJet.com.



For further information, please contact the easyJet Press Office on 01582 525252, log onto www.easyJet.com or follow @easyJet_Press
easyJet have clarified to the Scotsman that the aircraft isn't enabling more routes from EDI, but rather to reduce the amount of EJU and easyJet Switzerland aircraft visiting the airport.

Source: https://twitter.com/AlastairDalton/stat ... 7863665664
PiperOne
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Re: Edinburgh

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That makes sense, I had noticed that no new routes had been announced, but does put additional strain on the airport at peak times early morning and late at nights
southflyer
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Re: Edinburgh

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PiperOne wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:32 pm That makes sense, I had noticed that no new routes had been announced, but does put additional strain on the airport at peak times early morning and late at nights
Yes, if anything the airport needs more away based flying at off-peak times to alleviate stand capacity.
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