PIK

[atuk]

Agree regards the enterprise zone but it’s decades too late! I remember discussing this with Fergus in the late 80s early 90s in connection with the LHR M4 corridor which has been ultra successful in locating businesses, logistics and manufacturing.

My wish was for something similar between GLA-PIK with a fully dualled A737 to compliment the, then dual A77 now M77.

Why are we always so retrospect in Scotland? Perhaps it’s due to the quality of the folks who ran/ run it.

[Clive]

Agree regards the enterprise zone but it’s decades too late! I remember discussing this with Fergus in the late 80s early 90s in connection with the LHR M4 corridor which has been ultra successful in locating businesses, logistics and manufacturing.

My wish was for something similar between GLA-PIK with a fully dualled A737 to compliment the, then dual A77 now M77.

Why are we always so retrospect in Scotland? Perhaps it’s due to the quality of the folks who ran/ run it.

Maybe it’s because we are in the UK union so haven’t had the same opportunities as normal countries do - but that’s for another forum. You did ask.

[hads]

Trgger knows the industry.
Do baggage handlers get £38,000 per annum?

[atuk]

Trgger knows the industry.
Do baggage handlers get £38,000 per annum?

I can help answer that too. The short answer is no. Even a baggage manager responsible for ramp and cargo services would be a bit less than that.

Loads of folks in airport jobs are on minimum wage or not much above it. Of course, the sacred cow of Scottish aviation would have to be different, wouldn’t it?

[Clive]

Trgger knows the industry.
Do baggage handlers get £38,000 per annum?

I can help answer that too. The short answer is no. Even a baggage manager responsible for ramp and cargo services would be a bit less than that.

Loads of folks in airport jobs are on minimum wage or not much above it. Of course, the sacred cow of Scottish aviation would have to be different, wouldn’t it?

Why? Who earns £38k at PIK?

[atuk]

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Trgger knows the industry.
Do baggage handlers get £38,000 per annum?

I can help answer that too. The short answer is no. Even a baggage manager responsible for ramp and cargo services would be a bit less than that.

Loads of folks in airport jobs are on minimum wage or not much above it. Of course, the sacred cow of Scottish aviation would have to be different, wouldn’t it?
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Why? Who earns £38k at PIK?
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I’m answering Hads statement regards the average wage per employee at PIK.

[Clive]

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Trgger knows the industry.
Do baggage handlers get £38,000 per annum?

I can help answer that too. The short answer is no. Even a baggage manager responsible for ramp and cargo services would be a bit less than that.

Loads of folks in airport jobs are on minimum wage or not much above it. Of course, the sacred cow of Scottish aviation would have to be different, wouldn’t it?

Why? Who earns £38k at PIK?
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I’m answering Hads statement regards the average wage per employee at PIK.
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He didn’t state that. He took the cumulative loan funding then divided it by number of employees to demonstrate nominally how much it has cost the airport company to keep them in a job. He later asked if a baggage handler earns £38k.

As you are both good with business finances you will know that the loan capital has not all gone on wages. There are innumerable running costs at airports in addition to wages. Furthermore, the sum of over £40 million has accumulated over a number of years so doesn’t show the nominal annual investment per employee without dividing it further by the number of years.

So it’s all a bit of political delusion. In fact it’s exactly the kind of thing Richard Leonard does at the Scottish branch of Labour.

[atuk]

Clive

I’m not going to make this political but consider this.

The money given to PIK could have helped many other business build on their successes, not failure.

PIK has never delivered. All we have seen is a constant reduction in passenger services and these “loans” are in effect a subsidy to an Irish carrier competing against British registered carriers operating from both Edinburgh and Glasgow.

If there is transparency over monies allocated, outstanding loan repayments then it’s clear for all to see how much a drain PIK has become on public finances. Politicians should always remember that it is PUBLIC money they spend, not their own. If the latter I seriously wonder exactly how much their largesse would stretch.

Finally regarding transparency. Why all the secrecy regards the failed bid? Why is the statement released on Twitter by the usually invisible Transport Minister?

I ask these questions not to try and score any political points but as a hard pressed Scottish taxpayer.

[Clive]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/ ... 815246.amp

Huge firms kick of bid to buy PIK.

Sounds like DHL or suchlike?

[atuk]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/ ... 815246.amp

Huge firms kick of bid to buy PIK.

Sounds like DHL or suchlike?

Time will tell. I hope that there is no huge monetary carrots being dangled to bring this to fruition.

Meanwhile the cynic in me says aye the band played on!