Clive wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:13 am
Former chairman trying to make a bid for PIK. Just gotta hope he plans to close the terminal pax ops and concentrate on the good parts of the business.
Looks a bit suss how hes batted off other bids whilst in the chair and working on his own. Hes had 2 1/2 years running the place however so will know fine well what works and what doesn't there.
Anyway, aside from that, looking at Black's professional history in more depth it suggests hes currently and has been involved in a lot of fuelling and logistic/cargo type projects. Not a background involved in route development or working for commercial airlines or airports whose bread and butter is passenger orientated stuff.
Do we know if its a deal breaker to Ryanair on running a passenger operation if the terminal shuts? If that shuts do they move the maintenance operation? If the land the terminal is on is to be reutilized would they have no interest in expanding their non commercial ops? I hope the five year deal PIK signed with them is part of a transition timeline whilst the airport figures out the long term and not just renewing the status quo every few years. GLA and the West sorely needs that base to move.
Clive wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:13 am
Former chairman trying to make a bid for PIK. Just gotta hope he plans to close the terminal pax ops and concentrate on the good parts of the business.
Looks a bit suss how hes batted off other bids whilst in the chair and working on his own. Hes had 2 1/2 years running the place however so will know fine well what works and what doesn't there.
Anyway, aside from that, looking at Black's professional history in more depth it suggests hes currently and has been involved in a lot of fuelling and logistic/cargo type projects. Not a background involved in route development or working for commercial airlines or airports whose bread and butter is passenger orientated stuff.
Do we know if its a deal breaker to Ryanair on running a passenger operation if the terminal shuts? If that shuts do they move the maintenance operation? If the land the terminal is on is to be reutilized would they have no interest in expanding their non commercial ops? I hope the five year deal PIK signed with them is part of a transition timeline whilst the airport figures out the long term and not just renewing the status quo every few years. GLA and the West sorely needs that base to move.
I suppose no one not involved will know if the continuation of the Ryanair maintenance ops are dependent on the existence of the pax ops but I’d think not. I’d wager that the engineering will continue long after the terminal closes.
But will new owners opt to close the loss making terminal pax ops or be happy to carry on as it has been, with zero hope of attracting additional pax airlines and having the omnipresent threat of Ryanair leaving? That’s no kind of business plan but will new owners see it that way? I guess that’s the million dollar question and one which has massive implications for the future of GLA.
I repeat that to conclude this the way they want it’s down to GLA’s management to make it happen. Whatever the impediment has been thus far, get the gloves off and do it now.
Clive wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:13 am
Former chairman trying to make a bid for PIK. Just gotta hope he plans to close the terminal pax ops and concentrate on the good parts of the business.
Looks a bit suss how hes batted off other bids whilst in the chair and working on his own. Hes had 2 1/2 years running the place however so will know fine well what works and what doesn't there.
Anyway, aside from that, looking at Black's professional history in more depth it suggests hes currently and has been involved in a lot of fuelling and logistic/cargo type projects. Not a background involved in route development or working for commercial airlines or airports whose bread and butter is passenger orientated stuff.
Do we know if its a deal breaker to Ryanair on running a passenger operation if the terminal shuts? If that shuts do they move the maintenance operation? If the land the terminal is on is to be reutilized would they have no interest in expanding their non commercial ops? I hope the five year deal PIK signed with them is part of a transition timeline whilst the airport figures out the long term and not just renewing the status quo every few years. GLA and the West sorely needs that base to move.
I suppose no one not involved will know if the continuation of the Ryanair maintenance ops are dependent on the existence of the pax ops but I’d think not. I’d wager that the engineering will continue long after the terminal closes.
But will new owners opt to close the loss making terminal pax ops or be happy to carry on as it has been, with zero hope of attracting additional pax airlines and having the omnipresent threat of Ryanair leaving? That’s no kind of business plan but will new owners see it that way? I guess that’s the million dollar question and one which has massive implications for the future of GLA.
I repeat that to conclude this the way they want it’s down to GLA’s management to make it happen. Whatever the impediment has been thus far, get the gloves off and do it now.
The gloves should have been off 20+ years ago when FR first landed at PIK IMHO.
TonyM90 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:15 pm
Looks a bit suss how hes batted off other bids whilst in the chair and working on his own. Hes had 2 1/2 years running the place however so will know fine well what works and what doesn't there.
Anyway, aside from that, looking at Black's professional history in more depth it suggests hes currently and has been involved in a lot of fuelling and logistic/cargo type projects. Not a background involved in route development or working for commercial airlines or airports whose bread and butter is passenger orientated stuff.
Do we know if its a deal breaker to Ryanair on running a passenger operation if the terminal shuts? If that shuts do they move the maintenance operation? If the land the terminal is on is to be reutilized would they have no interest in expanding their non commercial ops? I hope the five year deal PIK signed with them is part of a transition timeline whilst the airport figures out the long term and not just renewing the status quo every few years. GLA and the West sorely needs that base to move.
I suppose no one not involved will know if the continuation of the Ryanair maintenance ops are dependent on the existence of the pax ops but I’d think not. I’d wager that the engineering will continue long after the terminal closes.
But will new owners opt to close the loss making terminal pax ops or be happy to carry on as it has been, with zero hope of attracting additional pax airlines and having the omnipresent threat of Ryanair leaving? That’s no kind of business plan but will new owners see it that way? I guess that’s the million dollar question and one which has massive implications for the future of GLA.
I repeat that to conclude this the way they want it’s down to GLA’s management to make it happen. Whatever the impediment has been thus far, get the gloves off and do it now.
The gloves should have been off 20+ years ago when FR first landed at PIK IMHO.
Agreed. Everything would have been very different.
I suppose no one not involved will know if the continuation of the Ryanair maintenance ops are dependent on the existence of the pax ops but I’d think not. I’d wager that the engineering will continue long after the terminal closes.
But will new owners opt to close the loss making terminal pax ops or be happy to carry on as it has been, with zero hope of attracting additional pax airlines and having the omnipresent threat of Ryanair leaving? That’s no kind of business plan but will new owners see it that way? I guess that’s the million dollar question and one which has massive implications for the future of GLA.
I repeat that to conclude this the way they want it’s down to GLA’s management to make it happen. Whatever the impediment has been thus far, get the gloves off and do it now.
The gloves should have been off 20+ years ago when FR first landed at PIK IMHO.
Agreed. Everything would have been very different.
The gloves should have been off 20+ years ago when FR first landed at PIK IMHO.
Agreed. Everything would have been very different.
Sleeping giant, eh?
They certainly missed the boat and have been paying for it for the last 20 years. The only hope for a meaningful redress of market share, etc, is that they secure a Ryanair base sooner rather than later.
Remember, Ryanair operated at GLA 1988-92 with a daily Dublin service on their One-Elevens. However, when they were looking to expand with their newly added 737s, GLA was in the middle of digesting a new and growing Trans-Atlantic operation, so not really in a place to take this operation. PIK, on the other hand, was looking to replace its TA operators, so the FR operation fitted into their re-positioning in the market.
PiperOne wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:55 pm
Remember, Ryanair operated at GLA 1988-92 with a daily Dublin service on their One-Elevens. However, when they were looking to expand with their newly added 737s, GLA was in the middle of digesting a new and growing Trans-Atlantic operation, so not really in a place to take this operation. PIK, on the other hand, was looking to replace its TA operators, so the FR operation fitted into their re-positioning in the market.
32-36 years ago. An awful lot of time and missed opportunities have passed since then. EDI has swooped in and taken almost everything. Do you think AGS are now trying to re-position themselves in the market?