PIK

[Clive]

Nothing we haven't already known for a while now. Still going round in circles on the sale, no mention if they aren't prepared to sell without safeguarding passenger flights. How much infrastructure work does the place need going forward? If someone is buying the airport are they going to have to invest in a mountain of things beyond the buying price to keep it operational for the long term? If you want to keep the status quo going you're just going to damage commercial aviation in this country, you are not going to have airports acting as "complimentary to one another".

We would if PIK was the big cargo hub along with all of its other non-pax roles.

[TonyM90]

Nothing we haven't already known for a while now. Still going round in circles on the sale, no mention if they aren't prepared to sell without safeguarding passenger flights. How much infrastructure work does the place need going forward? If someone is buying the airport are they going to have to invest in a mountain of things beyond the buying price to keep it operational for the long term? If you want to keep the status quo going you're just going to damage commercial aviation in this country, you are not going to have airports acting as "complimentary to one another".

We would if PIK was the big cargo hub along with all of its other non-pax roles.

That is clearly the ideal scenario for all of us on here. The SG, I am not sure, they certainly wanted to ensure passenger flights continued a few years ago.

Slightly different case as there was discussion of complete closure, but look recently at the public uproar and politicians falling over themselves to throw public money at getting passenger services back to DSA, when by the end all it had was a handful of Wizz and TUI flights and the region is surrounded by various other larger airports within an hour's drive. I think it would be a similarly emotional issue, if not worse of a reaction if it was suggested PIK would stop passenger flights because of its history, without people truly understanding the economics of it and why it is no longer necessary. I see them having to blank out a lot of noise and thats when politicians start thinking more about their personal reputation than the bigger picture. It looks to me like theres a fear of selling to a buyer who doesn't want the terminal. Its short sighted, but its relevant still I think.

[Clive]

Nothing we haven't already known for a while now. Still going round in circles on the sale, no mention if they aren't prepared to sell without safeguarding passenger flights. How much infrastructure work does the place need going forward? If someone is buying the airport are they going to have to invest in a mountain of things beyond the buying price to keep it operational for the long term? If you want to keep the status quo going you're just going to damage commercial aviation in this country, you are not going to have airports acting as "complimentary to one another".

We would if PIK was the big cargo hub along with all of its other non-pax roles.

That is clearly the ideal scenario for all of us on here. The SG, I am not sure, they certainly wanted to ensure passenger flights continued a few years ago.

Slightly different case as there was discussion of complete closure, but look recently at the public uproar and politicians falling over themselves to throw public money at getting passenger services back to DSA, when by the end all it had was a handful of Wizz and TUI flights and the region is surrounded by various other larger airports within an hour's drive. I think it would be a similarly emotional issue, if not worse of a reaction if it was suggested PIK would stop passenger flights because of its history, without people truly understanding the economics of it and why it is no longer necessary. I see them having to blank out a lot of noise and thats when politicians start thinking more about their personal reputation than the bigger picture. It looks to me like theres a fear of selling to a buyer who doesn't want the terminal. Its short sighted, but its relevant still I think.

Yes, the SG are going to get flack whichever way it goes and maybe their desire to keep pax ops has delayed any sale. I can understand it from their point of view. They want to safeguard the site. They don’t want it to be chopped up and asset stripped.

Obviously everyone in Ayrshire hopes it retains pax services and wishes it could do more. But it’s no kind of business model for new owners to have one pax airline on the books who hold them over a barrel and could up sticks at any moment. A sustainable business plan around pax ops would certainly not be based on one airline customer.

[McG]

Did Hong Kong Cargo operate any additional flights after the “inaugural” flight?

All seems to have went very quiet on that.

[Bearsden]

Did Hong Kong Cargo operate any additional flights after the “inaugural” flight?

All seems to have went very quiet on that.

None that I am aware

Cargolux are now down to three flights a week (two ex Houston, one ex Seattle)