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Bearsden
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Re: PIK

Post by Bearsden »

PIK will have been Scotland's most profitable airport over the last couple of days - 3 USAF C-5M visits, 10 C-17A visits (1 Kuwait, 9 USAF), 2 USN C-40A visits (mainly night-stopping) plus A330F G-EODS training plus light aircraft and RAF training

A quick look at the US Defense Logistics Agency website (https://cis.energy.dla.mil/ipcis/Ipcis) shows just how important the US military is for PIK's finances - the table below shows the fuel uplifts since the current 53 months (01/05/2020 to 30/09/2024) contract for 11,301,080 US gallons started
May-20 38,948
Jun-20 79,367
Jul-20 187,564
Aug-20 56,031
Nov-20 509,592
Dec-20 731,128
Jan-21 126,763
Mar-21 130,309
Apr-21 196,260
May-21 265,110
Jun-21 549,238
Jul-21 567,430
Aug-21 449,011

The cumulative to Aug-21 is running 40% higher than a simple 13/53rds of the total contract

Is it still the case that the UK Government picks up the tab for some of the costs?
Paris
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Re: PIK

Post by Paris »

Bearsden wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:19 am PIK will have been Scotland's most profitable airport over the last couple of days - 3 USAF C-5M visits, 10 C-17A visits (1 Kuwait, 9 USAF), 2 USN C-40A visits (mainly night-stopping) plus A330F G-EODS training plus light aircraft and RAF training
Won’t USAF flights now reduce via PIK since US military departure from Afghanistan?
Ekally1
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Re: PIK

Post by Ekally1 »

Paris wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:55 pm
Bearsden wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:19 am PIK will have been Scotland's most profitable airport over the last couple of days - 3 USAF C-5M visits, 10 C-17A visits (1 Kuwait, 9 USAF), 2 USN C-40A visits (mainly night-stopping) plus A330F G-EODS training plus light aircraft and RAF training
Won’t USAF flights now reduce via PIK since US military departure from Afghanistan?
I think thats probable ...
Bearsden
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Re: PIK

Post by Bearsden »

Ekally1 wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:43 pm
Paris wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:55 pm
Bearsden wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:19 am PIK will have been Scotland's most profitable airport over the last couple of days - 3 USAF C-5M visits, 10 C-17A visits (1 Kuwait, 9 USAF), 2 USN C-40A visits (mainly night-stopping) plus A330F G-EODS training plus light aircraft and RAF training
Won’t USAF flights now reduce via PIK since US military departure from Afghanistan?
I think thats probable ...
It will be interesting to see the FY2020/21 accounts and the treatment/narrative on this contract. Was the contract with the airport or with Air BP? If it is with the airport, did it hedge the contract with Air BP ie commit to buy the fuel over the term of the contract at agreed $ or £ rates per litre or US gallon? Are there any 'get out' clauses for either party or are the US Government committed to buy 11.3m US gallons?
Bearsden
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PIK SPACEPORT

Post by Bearsden »

http://www.parabolicarc.com/2021/09/21/ ... rtnership/

Interesting to read that 'with Astraius, the leading UK based, commercially operated horizontal ‘air launch’ company.' - The UK entity was only formed last year however its origins are in the US although a number of directors are British
sanderling
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Re: PIK

Post by sanderling »

Interesting to see a photo of a photoshopped C17 aircraft which will ‘carry and launch the rockets’
As far as I know all C17s worldwide are operated by various country’s Air Forces or at least used mainly for military purpose
Wondering who is providing the C17 for this operation or is this claim a bit far fetched?
GeorgeNTravels
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Re: PIK

Post by GeorgeNTravels »

Ryanair planning 38 weekly flights from PIK to 9 destinations next summer those being:

Alicante - 6 weekly
Barcelona - 3 weekly
Faro - 5 weekly
Gran Canaria - 2 weekly
Lanzarote - 2 weekly
Malaga - 5 weekly
Murcia International - 2 weekly
Palma de Mallorca - 7 weekly
Tenerife - 6 weekly

2 based aircraft and the rest operated by visiting aircraft.
atuk
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Re: PIK

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GeorgeNTravels wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:26 pm Ryanair planning 38 weekly flights from PIK to 9 destinations next summer those being:

Alicante - 6 weekly
Barcelona - 3 weekly
Faro - 5 weekly
Gran Canaria - 2 weekly
Lanzarote - 2 weekly
Malaga - 5 weekly
Murcia International - 2 weekly
Palma de Mallorca - 7 weekly
Tenerife - 6 weekly

2 based aircraft and the rest operated by visiting aircraft.
Thanks for posting. The only service not already duplicated from GLA/EDI is Murcia!

Hardly adding anything to the Scottish economy as these destinations cater for outbound tourism with nothing for inbound and if there is the percentage is minimal!
Clive
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Re: PIK

Post by Clive »

atuk wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:16 am
GeorgeNTravels wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:26 pm Ryanair planning 38 weekly flights from PIK to 9 destinations next summer those being:

Alicante - 6 weekly
Barcelona - 3 weekly
Faro - 5 weekly
Gran Canaria - 2 weekly
Lanzarote - 2 weekly
Malaga - 5 weekly
Murcia International - 2 weekly
Palma de Mallorca - 7 weekly
Tenerife - 6 weekly

2 based aircraft and the rest operated by visiting aircraft.
Thanks for posting. The only service not already duplicated from GLA/EDI is Murcia!

Hardly adding anything to the Scottish economy as these destinations cater for outbound tourism with nothing for inbound and if there is the percentage is minimal!
It’s serving the people of Ayrshire going to the popular holiday hotspots with the additional niches of budget conscious and DIY holidays/second home customers. Little or nothing to do with Eddy. As, in reality, not everything is.
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Re: PIK

Post by hads »

Almost nothing to do with Edinburgh. But an awful lot to do with the Glasgow conurbation.
Thats 38 weekly flights Glasgow isnt handling and at the current level of output, God knows, they could be doing with them.
Virtually every single person I know in the west of Scotland use PIK.
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