Flights to Glasgow scrapped by major airline in 'difficult decision'

[Ken1]

I agree with Clive and Bearsden, they put forward a lot of good points on this. On investment/ banks/ venture capitalist ( Edi) …. There simply is too much money out there, so parties will invest in ventures that they really don’t understand .I.e Glasgow Airport. Plus 13+ years ago, I was involved with Far Eastern investors who were 99% of the way to conclude the purchase of PIK for £55m, but the deal stalled when we valued it at £28m.

What is interesting in this group, with the GLA and other aviation knowledge, is that certain individuals are more informed than the financial “experts”. You only have to look at Virgin and the misjudgement of the Barbados flights from EDI and dwindling Orlando numbers, that most here foresaw. Plus Flybe relaunch was a no brainer to all of us , that it would fail, but some totally ill-advised funders with too much cash, bought into the Flybe concept and believed they would get a good return.

On GLA I thing the management are 50% to blame for its downfall, I pointed out before that with the great news EK were significantly improving their Glasgow offer with the A380 . There was the Usual poor show/ up selling from AGS their CCO Matt Hazelwood stated “ reintroducing the A380 is tremendous news for Glasgow and the West of Scotland”. .. what happened to just stating Scotland or also mentioning also for the East of Scotland? I live in Edinburgh and would happy come west just to experience the A380, AGS need to go on a positivity marketing course

[egpffqtv]

No one is debating EDI's position here and its effect on the GLA, I think that's been discussed to death. That doesn't excuse the lacklustre approach of AGS.

What's shocking is the airport's inability to focus on anything but the bucket & spade market and Emirates. Serious investment is needed on refurbishment, not opening Greggs and advertising it on social media like it's the best thing that's ever happened to the place. They were quicker to announce that than they are new routes. The other eating and shopping options are abysmal. Most parts of the airport still have BAA signage and still use a manual PA system. GLA have turned down expansion offers in the past from exisiting airlines and continue to keep any meaningful Ryanair expansion at bay. So long as they are at the helm, nothing will change and the position as a domestic and holiday airport will long continue.

But yet we'll still get blasted on here for not using GLA

I’d say they’ve even lost the bucket and spade market to EDI. I’d also wager a bet that the majority of pax using these flights will be from the west of Scotland!

[Clive]

No one is debating EDI's position here and its effect on the GLA, I think that's been discussed to death. That doesn't excuse the lacklustre approach of AGS.

What's shocking is the airport's inability to focus on anything but the bucket & spade market and Emirates. Serious investment is needed on refurbishment, not opening Greggs and advertising it on social media like it's the best thing that's ever happened to the place. They were quicker to announce that than they are new routes. The other eating and shopping options are abysmal. Most parts of the airport still have BAA signage and still use a manual PA system. GLA have turned down expansion offers in the past from exisiting airlines and continue to keep any meaningful Ryanair expansion at bay. So long as they are at the helm, nothing will change and the position as a domestic and holiday airport will long continue.

But yet we'll still get blasted on here for not using GLA

Almost all airports are domestic and holiday airports. What other kinds are there?

I’m certain if AGS or GLA bosses could respond they would refute what you say. I’m not excusing them but I can’t really judge them as an onlooker. We don’t know how any other airport operator would have done any better in the real world that they have to operate within.

Still looking forward to SharpAl’s reply to my points as it’s good to get constructive and informed debate, especially on this particular subject.

[egpffqtv]

Almost all airports are domestic and holiday airports. What other kinds are there?

Look at EDI's route map and tell me if it strikes you as serving primarily the domestic and bucket and spade market.

I’m certain if AGS or GLA bosses could respond they would refute what you say. I’m not excusing them but I can’t really judge them as an onlooker. We don’t know how any other airport operator would have done any better in the real world that they have to operate within.

Of course they would. They'll probably tell you that they gained X amount of new routes in the last 5 years, one of which is still operating. Did you hear Greggs is opening though?

I had heard Greggs was opening. And they were promoting Stornaway as an ‘alternative’ Valentines Day destination on their social media platforms yesterday

[Clive]

Almost all airports are domestic and holiday airports. What other kinds are there?

Look at EDI's route map and tell me if it strikes you as serving primarily the domestic and bucket and spade market.

You said domestic and holiday. Short breaks, DIY trips, and city breaks, are holidays. That’s a lot of the people onboard all those budget flights to and from EDI and many of Europe’s airports. Indeed the same traveller demographics apply to flights involving GLA. We usually use the terms ‘flying for business or leisure’.

I’m certain if AGS or GLA bosses could respond they would refute what you say. I’m not excusing them but I can’t really judge them as an onlooker. We don’t know how any other airport operator would have done any better in the real world that they have to operate within.

Of course they would. They'll probably tell you that they gained X amount of new routes in the last 5 years, one of which is still operating. Did you hear Greggs is opening though?
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Let’s try to keep this more sensible for as long as possible.

All the airport bosses can do is persuade airlines of a business case and secure routes, and a degree of marketing in cooperation with the airline and other bodies. If no one uses those flights they will fail.

[Bearsden]

Pick Up & Drop Off just increased by 25% to £5! (all electric vehicles registered on GLA website get 10 minutes free)

[Paris]

Almost all airports are domestic and holiday airports. What other kinds are there?

Look at EDI's route map and tell me if it strikes you as serving primarily the domestic and bucket and spade market.

You said domestic and holiday. Short breaks, DIY trips, and city breaks, are holidays. That’s a lot of the people onboard all those budget flights to and from EDI and many of Europe’s airports. Indeed the same traveller demographics apply to flights involving GLA. We usually use the terms ‘flying for business or leisure’.

I’m certain if AGS or GLA bosses could respond they would refute what you say. I’m not excusing them but I can’t really judge them as an onlooker. We don’t know how any other airport operator would have done any better in the real world that they have to operate within.

Of course they would. They'll probably tell you that they gained X amount of new routes in the last 5 years, one of which is still operating. Did you hear Greggs is opening though?

Let’s try to keep this more sensible for as long as possible.

All the airport bosses can do is persuade airlines of a business case and secure routes, and a degree of marketing in cooperation with the airline and other bodies. If no one uses those flights they will fail.
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I’m kind of lost for which words to use remarking on the above? There is so much that can be done years ago, now & in the future… The past & present airport bosses couldn’t persuade a dog to a bone, they have & are failing in their job, from top to bottom management… They had the business, they failed to hold on to it They had business, they lost it. They had the business they failed to grow it… Turn the clock back, give us the foresight & enthusiasm shown by Team EDI and where would GLA have been..!!! This current mob are failures in running an airport or they are doing a wonderful job doing what they have been tasked to do… Sturgeon behind her carefully prepared speech today, basically said ‘I cannot carry on and have hit my limit on where I take this country’ … Too bad GLA management don’t put their own hands up & admit failure on the task too big for their inept skills.

[Clive]

Didn’t last long. That’s a shame.

Still looking forward to SharpAl’s response to my answer to him.

[GeorgeNTravels]

Pick Up & Drop Off just increased by 25% to £5! (all electric vehicles registered on GLA website get 10 minutes free)

Response from GLA to a customer complaint on Twitter

"As part of an ongoing review of our parking charges, passengers using the dedicated pick-up and drop-off facility will now pay £5 for an increased time period of 15 minutes from today. A free 30-minute period in our Short Stay Car Park will remain in place for Blue Badge holders and we will also continue to offer a free 30-minute option at our Long-Stay Car Park, which we would encourage people to use. The funds generated through our parking services will continue to go directly towards re-establishing our connectivity and improving the airport’s facilities."

[Paris]

Pick Up & Drop Off just increased by 25% to £5! (all electric vehicles registered on GLA website get 10 minutes free)

Response from GLA to a customer complaint on Twitter

"As part of an ongoing review of our parking charges, passengers using the dedicated pick-up and drop-off facility will now pay £5 for an increased time period of 15 minutes from today. A free 30-minute period in our Short Stay Car Park will remain in place for Blue Badge holders and we will also continue to offer a free 30-minute option at our Long-Stay Car Park, which we would encourage people to use. The funds generated through our parking services will continue to go directly towards re-establishing our connectivity and improving the airport’s facilities."

“The funds generated through our parking services will continue to go directly towards re-establishing our connectivity and improving the airport’s facilities” That’s a Bunnn Buster of a statement … Connectivity ffs