Flights to Glasgow scrapped by major airline in 'difficult decision'

[Bearsden]

Pick Up & Drop Off just increased by 25% to £5! (all electric vehicles registered on GLA website get 10 minutes free)

Response from GLA to a customer complaint on Twitter

"As part of an ongoing review of our parking charges, passengers using the dedicated pick-up and drop-off facility will now pay £5 for an increased time period of 15 minutes from today. A free 30-minute period in our Short Stay Car Park will remain in place for Blue Badge holders and we will also continue to offer a free 30-minute option at our Long-Stay Car Park, which we would encourage people to use. The funds generated through our parking services will continue to go directly towards re-establishing our connectivity and improving the airport’s facilities."

With all registration recognition data at their disposal, GLA will know that virtually nobody spent more than the previous 10 minutes in the facility so the extra £1 for 5 minutes is straight into the back pocket

[GeorgeNTravels]

Pick Up & Drop Off just increased by 25% to £5! (all electric vehicles registered on GLA website get 10 minutes free)

Response from GLA to a customer complaint on Twitter

"As part of an ongoing review of our parking charges, passengers using the dedicated pick-up and drop-off facility will now pay £5 for an increased time period of 15 minutes from today. A free 30-minute period in our Short Stay Car Park will remain in place for Blue Badge holders and we will also continue to offer a free 30-minute option at our Long-Stay Car Park, which we would encourage people to use. The funds generated through our parking services will continue to go directly towards re-establishing our connectivity and improving the airport’s facilities."

“The funds generated through our parking services will continue to go directly towards re-establishing our connectivity and improving the airport’s facilities” That’s a Bunnn Buster of a statement … Connectivity ffs

My reaction as well, wonder which bright spark came up with it

[rusty irish]

Would be nice if they upgraded the travel experience to the City Centre from those shitey 500 busses.

Not a patch on the Citylink coaches from EDI to Buchanan Street. Despite all the political bother with the rail link etc this sort of thing is well within their control, theres no excuse for the piss poor connectivity offered.

[bill]

No one is debating EDI's position here and its effect on the GLA, I think that's been discussed to death. That doesn't excuse the lacklustre approach of AGS.

What's shocking is the airport's inability to focus on anything but the bucket & spade market and Emirates. Serious investment is needed on refurbishment, not opening Greggs and advertising it on social media like it's the best thing that's ever happened to the place. They were quicker to announce that than they are new routes. The other eating and shopping options are abysmal. Most parts of the airport still have BAA signage and still use a manual PA system. GLA have turned down expansion offers in the past from exisiting airlines and continue to keep any meaningful Ryanair expansion at bay. So long as they are at the helm, nothing will change and the position as a domestic and holiday airport will long continue.

But yet we'll still get blasted on here for not using GLA

I’d say they’ve even lost the bucket and spade market to EDI. I’d also wager a bet that the majority of pax using these flights will be from the west of Scotland!

Maybe not lost the bucket & spade market altogether just yet (but they're working on it) but EDI has certainly just about equalled GLA's offerings, seat for seat.

[bill]

“The funds generated through our parking services will continue to go directly towards re-establishing our connectivity and improving the airport’s facilities” That’s a Bunnn Buster of a statement … Connectivity ffs

Maybe they mean wi-fi or something?

[GeorgeNTravels]

No one is debating EDI's position here and its effect on the GLA, I think that's been discussed to death. That doesn't excuse the lacklustre approach of AGS.

What's shocking is the airport's inability to focus on anything but the bucket & spade market and Emirates. Serious investment is needed on refurbishment, not opening Greggs and advertising it on social media like it's the best thing that's ever happened to the place. They were quicker to announce that than they are new routes. The other eating and shopping options are abysmal. Most parts of the airport still have BAA signage and still use a manual PA system. GLA have turned down expansion offers in the past from exisiting airlines and continue to keep any meaningful Ryanair expansion at bay. So long as they are at the helm, nothing will change and the position as a domestic and holiday airport will long continue.

But yet we'll still get blasted on here for not using GLA

I’d say they’ve even lost the bucket and spade market to EDI. I’d also wager a bet that the majority of pax using these flights will be from the west of Scotland!

Maybe not lost the bucket & spade market altogether just yet (but they're working on it) but EDI has certainly just about equalled GLA's offerings, seat for seat.

Stats for W22 for the Canary Islands

EDI TFS - 109,199
GLA TFS - 122,226

EDI LPA - 35,826
GLA LPA - 61,935

EDI ACE - 81,680
GLA ACE - 53,865

EDI FUE - 62,813
GLA FUE - 17,010

EDI TOTAL - 289,518
GLA TOTAL - 255,036

Shows the power of a Ryanair base considering they have 123,034 of those seats

[bill]

Stats for W22 for the Canary Islands

EDI TFS - 109,199
GLA TFS - 122,226

EDI LPA - 35,826
GLA LPA - 61,935

EDI ACE - 81,680
GLA ACE - 53,865

EDI FUE - 62,813
GLA FUE - 17,010

EDI TOTAL - 289,518
GLA TOTAL - 255,036

Shows the power of a Ryanair base considering they have 123,034 of those seats

Pretty grim when you see it like that. FUE/ACE figures especially.Thanks for the stats George.

[Sharpal7]

Some interesting and very informative answers to my (rhetorical) question. Nothing wrong with a good debate.

Different owners (and their foresight or lack-of) is the key. After the BAA sale of EDI, the new owners there saw the benefit of embracing the lo-co model and went aggressively for it. Meanwhile GLA snubbed EZY and stuck with the legacy carrier model in the main.

As others have pointed out there are other elements in play, but no-one will convince me otherwise that the GLA management have not been partly responsible for the situation the airport now finds itself in. Yes, of course the airlines decide where they want to fly to but sometimes it also boils down to incentives, marketing and good management.

The ship has sailed and GLA has been holed below the waterline.

[atuk]

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Stats for W22 for the Canary Islands

EDI TFS - 109,199
GLA TFS - 122,226

EDI LPA - 35,826
GLA LPA - 61,935

EDI ACE - 81,680
GLA ACE - 53,865

EDI FUE - 62,813
GLA FUE - 17,010

EDI TOTAL - 289,518
GLA TOTAL - 255,036

Shows the power of a Ryanair base considering they have 123,034 of those seats

Pretty grim when you see it like that. FUE/ACE figures especially.Thanks for the stats George.
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Well it irks me to see there is no GLA-FUE service from TUI. Back in Thomas Cook days there was a twice weekly service shared with TUI!

Now with no Thomas Cook TUI chosen to take seats from EZY on their twice weekly service. Yes Jet2 operate from EDI and GLA but add to that two*EZY and 3*FR then EDI has at least 7 FUE services!

I also noticed one day on shift recently that FR have both an early morning and lunchtime ACE so some days they have 2*ACE as well as 2*TFS! No wonder they have 11based aircraft for S23.

[Clive]

Some interesting and very informative answers to my (rhetorical) question. Nothing wrong with a good debate.

Different owners (and their foresight or lack-of) is the key. After the BAA sale of EDI, the new owners there saw the benefit of embracing the lo-co model and went aggressively for it. Meanwhile GLA snubbed EZY and stuck with the legacy carrier model in the main.

As others have pointed out there are other elements in play, but no-one will convince me otherwise that the GLA management have not been partly responsible for the situation the airport now finds itself in. Yes, of course the airlines decide where they want to fly to but sometimes it also boils down to incentives, marketing and good management.

The ship has sailed and GLA has been holed below the waterline.

Yes, IIRC there was a pivotal decision back in the day at a time when easyJet had 4 aircraft at both bases and had been growing with parity, when EDI landed the expansion deal and GLA lost out. The rest became history.

Similarly, back in the day, pre-Amanda, GLA appeared to not actually want a Ryanair base. Some folks feared it would impact on existing services. Shows that even back then few had faith in the virility of the market in Glasgow and the west. I always contended that Ryanair make new passengers - they get people to fly who wouldn’t otherwise and they could sustain routes to all sorts of airports, even ones that no one had previously heard of.

I was also told by the management in an interview I did for my college course around 1996/7 that lo-co pax do not spend in the terminal so with the kind of airport fees the airlines would pay there was nothing in it for the airport company. I said then that you have to move with the market and keep up with the competition.

So the battle - if there ever was one - was lost way back then and subsequent owners/management were shackled with that history while all the airlines filled up EDI.

The new CEO must come in with a whole new outlook. I dearly hope he plays with the market rather than trying to swim against it.