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Planeenthusiast
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Edinburgh

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Could EDI be in line for another transatlantic route? Delta reportedly may be about to announce another route. Speculation of course until confirmed. Minneapolis being banded about as the destination. Little hints also coming from EDI management about “more to come”.

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Planeenthusiast wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 3:37 pm Could EDI be in line for another transatlantic route? Delta reportedly may be about to announce another route. Speculation of course until confirmed. Minneapolis being banded about as the destination. Little hints also coming from EDI management about “more to come”.

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If that was to come to fruition it would be a bit of a head scratcher to be honest. DL offer fairly low numbers of TATL flights from MSP. No German destinations, no Italian destinations, not even Dublin as far as I can see.
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buddyboy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 7:01 am
Planeenthusiast wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 3:37 pm Could EDI be in line for another transatlantic route? Delta reportedly may be about to announce another route. Speculation of course until confirmed. Minneapolis being banded about as the destination. Little hints also coming from EDI management about “more to come”.

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If that was to come to fruition it would be a bit of a head scratcher to be honest. DL offer fairly low numbers of TATL flights from MSP. No German destinations, no Italian destinations, not even Dublin as far as I can see.
I agree that MSP would be a surprise, if it turns out to be correct. I was careful to use the word speculation. EDI management, clearly, is confident of more to come as a they put it. Other Delta hubs include Salt lake City, which I just don’t see as likely. Seattle is another hub. Huge catchment area and a big airport growing at a really fast pace. They certainly have a larger international routes portfolio compared to MSP. LAX is the other hub. The airport is offering financial incentives to airlines to start routes. A scottish route was specifically mentioned as a target for them. No disrespect to GLA, however, right now, I only see EDI as a likely option for any airlines taking a punt on this route. As for other American carriers potentially adding or resuming routes, AA resuming PHL-EDI would not be a surprise. All down to aircraft availability for them apparently. Some have mentioned DFW with AA. It’s their main hub certainly, but a long shot in my opinion. United already have an established network of routes to/from EDI. What’s left with them? Denver, Houston or LAX? Norse and JetBlue is the other airlines offering transatlantic services. Norse appear to putting all their UK resource into Gatwick. Don’t see them appearing at EDI anytime soon. JetBlue, the much rumoured JetBlue. GLA would hope to be in with a shout with them. Their strategy however is to disrupt monopolies or routes offered by bigger fish. They like to shake things up. Could they offer a JFK service from EDI? They have a really strong business class product, often much cheaper than the legacy airlines. I don’t doubt they could fill an A321 a few times a week. The biggest problem for EDI, should growth continue is the infrastructure. The terminal, as many have mentioned is full to bursting point. Will the owners dig really deep again and expand the terminal in some way? They would certainly need to invest in some way, to secure pre-clearance. Political will to support further growth? Forget it with the current anti aviation sector SNP/Green coalition.
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Personally I think his more to come line was just a reference to Atlanta which hasn’t started yet.
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Re: Edinburgh

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Delta GLA-JFK would of course be a winner and obviously GLA bosses are working on that. Shame no one in this forum sees that. SEA/SLC/MSP-EDI a better business case than JFK-GLA? LOL.
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Regarding further expansion of EDI. I think it will be in the back of the minds of the owners that this huge uptick in TATL travel from the opposite side of the pond has the potential to be a temporary thing. It's based very heavily off of a weak pound v the dollar.

If this was to change all of a sudden they could be left with a very expensive, underutilized building. Given they are a vehicle for shareholder returns above all else I see them squeezing the current facilities as much as they can.
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Re: Edinburgh

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southflyer wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 11:30 am
Clive wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:42 am Delta GLA-JFK would of course be a winner and obviously GLA bosses are working on that. Shame no one in this forum sees that. SEA/SLC/MSP-EDI a better business case than JFK-GLA? LOL.
DL have consolidated at EDI, that is the reality. Frankly I don't have faith in GLA bosses working on anything other than opening Irn Bru T-shirt shops and Greggs.
Credit to GLA management where it’s due however. They’ve got one up on EDI. They have a Greggs and EDI don’t…..
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southflyer wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 11:30 am
Clive wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:42 am Delta GLA-JFK would of course be a winner and obviously GLA bosses are working on that. Shame no one in this forum sees that. SEA/SLC/MSP-EDI a better business case than JFK-GLA? LOL.
DL have consolidated at EDI, that is the reality. Frankly I don't have faith in GLA bosses working on anything other than opening Irn Bru T-shirt shops and Greggs.
“Have consolidated”. It’s funny how you think what’s happening now is permanent when history proves that nothing is. Of course Delta could add JFK-GLA when they see a market opportunity. A million times more likely than them adding an EDI service from a mid west hub with hardly any Euro links.

It’s not a lack of faith in GLA management you have, it’s clearly a lack of faith in the GLA catchment area and the inbound draw for business and leisure in Glasgow and the west of Scotland.
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Re: Edinburgh

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Planeenthusiast wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 11:48 am
southflyer wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 11:30 am
Clive wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:42 am Delta GLA-JFK would of course be a winner and obviously GLA bosses are working on that. Shame no one in this forum sees that. SEA/SLC/MSP-EDI a better business case than JFK-GLA? LOL.
DL have consolidated at EDI, that is the reality. Frankly I don't have faith in GLA bosses working on anything other than opening Irn Bru T-shirt shops and Greggs.
Credit to GLA management where it’s due however. They’ve got one up on EDI. They have a Greggs and EDI don’t…..
Comedy gold. The Edinburgh Fringe Festival awaits you.
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Re: Edinburgh

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Clive wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:17 pm
southflyer wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 11:30 am
Clive wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:42 am Delta GLA-JFK would of course be a winner and obviously GLA bosses are working on that. Shame no one in this forum sees that. SEA/SLC/MSP-EDI a better business case than JFK-GLA? LOL.
DL have consolidated at EDI, that is the reality. Frankly I don't have faith in GLA bosses working on anything other than opening Irn Bru T-shirt shops and Greggs.
“Have consolidated”. It’s funny how you think what’s happening now is permanent when history proves that nothing is. Of course Delta could add JFK-GLA when they see a market opportunity. A million times more likely than them adding an EDI service from a mid west hub with hardly any Euro links.

It’s not a lack of faith in GLA management you have, it’s clearly a lack of faith in the GLA catchment area and the inbound draw for business and leisure in Glasgow and the west of Scotland.
Oh be quiet. AGS have failed GLA and well you know it!
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