Edinburgh

[Clive]

It’s not a lack of faith in GLA management you have, it’s clearly a lack of faith in the GLA catchment area and the inbound draw for business and leisure in Glasgow and the west of Scotland.

I don't think most of us do doubt the catchment. We doubt the owners/mangers who've contrived to lose all the airports scheduled US routes after more than 20 years of pretty much continuous service, much of the time on multiple routes (all of which demonstrated demand in the catchment).

We see that apparently US business - particularly inbound - is booming, with Mr Dewar (in the article I quoted in the other thread) saying traffic is 25% up on pre COVID at EDI.

The GLA catchment clearly DOES have many locations that are very popular with US tourists, but GLA clearly is missing out on that. Moreover this boom should be a huge boon to helping GLA get US service back, but AGS don't seem to be capitalising on it, whilst EDI is.

Personally I don't see DL or UA coming back anytime soon, it wouldn't surprise me if they've been given a deal at EDI in return of exclusivity. The better chances might be new entrants like EI UK, JetBlue, Norse and Frontier...or persuade EK to operate a DXB-GLA-USA routing!

The new CEO certainly seems to say the right things, but he needs to produce results asap.

Agree with most of that. The only thing I’d say is today is never the end of the story. The only certainty is change. Folks who doubt that only need to look back at the air travel industry in blocks of ten years. And there only are 4 or 5 of those since mass air travel began. The change has been phenomenal and there is zero chance that today is when change stopped happening.

[buddyboy]

It’s not a lack of faith in GLA management you have, it’s clearly a lack of faith in the GLA catchment area and the inbound draw for business and leisure in Glasgow and the west of Scotland.

I don't think most of us do doubt the catchment. We doubt the owners/mangers who've contrived to lose all the airports scheduled US routes after more than 20 years of pretty much continuous service, much of the time on multiple routes (all of which demonstrated demand in the catchment).

We see that apparently US business - particularly inbound - is booming, with Mr Dewar (in the article I quoted in the other thread) saying traffic is 25% up on pre COVID at EDI.

The GLA catchment clearly DOES have many locations that are very popular with US tourists, but GLA clearly is missing out on that. Moreover this boom should be a huge boon to helping GLA get US service back, but AGS don't seem to be capitalising on it, whilst EDI is.

Personally I don't see DL or UA coming back anytime soon, it wouldn't surprise me if they've been given a deal at EDI in return of exclusivity. The better chances might be new entrants like EI UK, JetBlue, Norse and Frontier...or persuade EK to operate a DXB-GLA-USA routing!

The new CEO certainly seems to say the right things, but he needs to produce results asap.

I had wondered if EK could be tempted to reintroduce the 2nd daily with an onwards trip to NYC. Would seem to fill two holes in one move

[egpffqtv]

Could they have done better? No doubt. But that can be said for every airport and every business in the world.

I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not anymore.

[hads]

The only certainty is change. Folks who doubt that only need to look back at the air travel industry in blocks of ten years. And there only are 4 or 5 of those since mass air travel began. The change has been phenomenal and there is zero chance that today is when change stopped happening.

Taking this to its natural conclusion, any TATL development is many years away. Constant change is absolutely a taken in anything. I dont think that Glasgow Airport has the luxury of waiting for change no matter how it materialises.
We are stuck in a pincer. PIK to the West. Edinburgh to the East. Airlines choosing Edinburgh as launch site due to critical mass and inbound tourism.

The new boy knows this of course. He has as much as said it in his article. So its his problem to sort. If he cant; hope he does, how many CEO s does it take to remedy?
Its like a stagnant foorball club. Constantly changing Manager in the hope it will be allright, whilst your biggest opponent doesnt change manager becasue they dont have to.

Cliffe knows whats to be done so lets wait and see if he delivers.

[Clive]

The only certainty is change. Folks who doubt that only need to look back at the air travel industry in blocks of ten years. And there only are 4 or 5 of those since mass air travel began. The change has been phenomenal and there is zero chance that today is when change stopped happening.

Taking this to its natural conclusion, any TATL development is many years away. Constant change is absolutely a taken in anything. I dont think that Glasgow Airport has the luxury of waiting for change no matter how it materialises.
We are stuck in a pincer. PIK to the West. Edinburgh to the East. Airlines choosing Edinburgh as launch site due to critical mass and inbound tourism.

The new boy knows this of course. He has as much as said it in his article. So its his problem to sort. If he cant; hope he does, how many CEO s does it take to remedy?
Its like a stagnant foorball club. Constantly changing Manager in the hope it will be allright, whilst your biggest opponent doesnt change manager becasue they dont have to.

Cliffe knows whats to be done so lets wait and see if he delivers.

Agree about why airlines are choosing EDI. Why wouldn’t they?

Agree with football analogy. Maybe AGS should appoint Barry Robson

[Iain]

I had wondered if EK could be tempted to reintroduce the 2nd daily with an onwards trip to NYC. Would seem to fill two holes in one move

AFAIK EK do these flights from MXP and ATH and they used to do it at HAM too, so why not GLA? I'd be pretty surprised if GLA management haven't asked about it. EK clearly have a very popular product at GLA, so if they were to offer it across the Atlantic then that would probably do well. Also, given half the pax are through pax, GLA would surely only be responsible for filling half the seats.

I think it would require some structural/logistical alterations at GLA, but surely not impossible.

[Planeenthusiast]

UA second daily service from Newark starts tonight. Both flights today are full with a standby list for each. The capacity increase was clearly merited.

[Planeenthusiast]

Both Newark - Edinburgh flights this evening are booked full. It would appear UA decision to go double daily at EDI is justified.

[Ekally1]

Big woop for edi

[GeorgeNTravels]

UA second daily service from Newark starts tonight. Both flights today are full with a standby list for each. The capacity increase was clearly merited.

UA only showing an standby list for the first departure and that there are still seats available on the second departure.